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	<title>Comments on: ditching design in a poor economy is, well&#8230;DUMB</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://modbird.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/ditching-design-in-a-poor-economy-is-welldumb/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Alex, you have touched on some very good points.  I would add that I know for a fact that good design does NOT have to cost more.  It comes down to quality which is more an extension of lack of skill and laziness than cost.  You can build two very different houses using the exact same materials and the same labor time.  One can be designed and fabricated much better than the other depending on the talent and skill of the designer and craftsmen. 

For example, the American public settles for poor building standards.  It blows my mind that people will pay millions of dollars for a horribly built house that is basically a piece of crap and will not last more than 5 years before it starts to deteriorate.  We allow builders to put ridiculous price tags on these crappy houses that they mass produce by thousands.  If we would acknowledge them as crap by refusing to buy them, we would force the builder to produce a better quality product.  I think this is why I  am drawn find places to live in older buildings.  Because of my profession, I am trained to notice every detail of construction...good and bad.  Unfortunately, there is much more bad than good in newer construction.

Yes, our founders were skilled as well as intelligent. They were inventors, craftsmen, architects and scholars.  I think they would cringe at our &quot;fast-food :) mentality&quot;

I mean this in the nicest way, but I think the majority (not all) of the American public is spoiled and lazy.  Maybe we deserve crappy houses.  After all, we are stupid enough to pay for them.  It makes me sad nonetheless.
 
Also....for the record....while IKEA is known for inexpensive items, the do have SOME things that are not only built better than most on the market, but also have some nice design thought behind them.  Heck, even the things built out of cardboard have better design than most of the houses on the market today...which might as well be made out of cardboard :)  Ok....leaving my soapbox....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Alex, you have touched on some very good points.  I would add that I know for a fact that good design does NOT have to cost more.  It comes down to quality which is more an extension of lack of skill and laziness than cost.  You can build two very different houses using the exact same materials and the same labor time.  One can be designed and fabricated much better than the other depending on the talent and skill of the designer and craftsmen. </p>
<p>For example, the American public settles for poor building standards.  It blows my mind that people will pay millions of dollars for a horribly built house that is basically a piece of crap and will not last more than 5 years before it starts to deteriorate.  We allow builders to put ridiculous price tags on these crappy houses that they mass produce by thousands.  If we would acknowledge them as crap by refusing to buy them, we would force the builder to produce a better quality product.  I think this is why I  am drawn find places to live in older buildings.  Because of my profession, I am trained to notice every detail of construction&#8230;good and bad.  Unfortunately, there is much more bad than good in newer construction.</p>
<p>Yes, our founders were skilled as well as intelligent. They were inventors, craftsmen, architects and scholars.  I think they would cringe at our &#8220;fast-food <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  mentality&#8221;</p>
<p>I mean this in the nicest way, but I think the majority (not all) of the American public is spoiled and lazy.  Maybe we deserve crappy houses.  After all, we are stupid enough to pay for them.  It makes me sad nonetheless.</p>
<p>Also&#8230;.for the record&#8230;.while IKEA is known for inexpensive items, the do have SOME things that are not only built better than most on the market, but also have some nice design thought behind them.  Heck, even the things built out of cardboard have better design than most of the houses on the market today&#8230;which might as well be made out of cardboard <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Ok&#8230;.leaving my soapbox&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Beattie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Beattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How true it is... &#039;good design is not a luxury...&#039; Good design is imperative, and the only thing that makes people aware of good design is the lack of... one of my favorite design quotes, or at least I think it is pertinent (I believe it can be attributed to Seth Godin):
    
     &#039;Quality is the absence of &#039;non-quality&#039; signals&#039; 

Sad, but true. It is the saddest thing about our culture. I know people who have never read a book, but they sure as hell know how to send a text message. 

Nothing against IKEA, but unfortunately that is the mental framework we live in... and, for you and I design is important, but it tends to be expensive... only because it is not a matter of importance anymore.

Just look at the back of our dollar bill, there are masonry symbols all over it. That is because the founders of this glorious country were...: yep... not only designers... but also builders... it was a pre-requisite for the American club... that is... until we invented fast-food... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How true it is&#8230; &#8216;good design is not a luxury&#8230;&#8217; Good design is imperative, and the only thing that makes people aware of good design is the lack of&#8230; one of my favorite design quotes, or at least I think it is pertinent (I believe it can be attributed to Seth Godin):</p>
<p>     &#8216;Quality is the absence of &#8216;non-quality&#8217; signals&#8217; </p>
<p>Sad, but true. It is the saddest thing about our culture. I know people who have never read a book, but they sure as hell know how to send a text message. </p>
<p>Nothing against IKEA, but unfortunately that is the mental framework we live in&#8230; and, for you and I design is important, but it tends to be expensive&#8230; only because it is not a matter of importance anymore.</p>
<p>Just look at the back of our dollar bill, there are masonry symbols all over it. That is because the founders of this glorious country were&#8230;: yep&#8230; not only designers&#8230; but also builders&#8230; it was a pre-requisite for the American club&#8230; that is&#8230; until we invented fast-food&#8230; <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://modbird.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/ditching-design-in-a-poor-economy-is-welldumb/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments guys.  Anyone want to start a new design movement??  I think its the perfect time!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments guys.  Anyone want to start a new design movement??  I think its the perfect time!!</p>
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		<title>By: benji</title>
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		<dc:creator>benji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Good design is not a luxury. It is a necessity. In a poor economy, designers need to be a part of things even more. They are the innovative thinkers.&quot;

Loving it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Good design is not a luxury. It is a necessity. In a poor economy, designers need to be a part of things even more. They are the innovative thinkers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Loving it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jsteinbergdesign</title>
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		<dc:creator>jsteinbergdesign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;by allowing poorly designed items to be commonly accepted, we force good design to become a luxury because we are allowing manufacturers to capitalize on it.

What angers me most is that we are teaching people the incorrect definition of true design. “Designer” items are not the only things that are designed or designed well. EVERYTHING must be designed.&quot;

Spot on! Great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;by allowing poorly designed items to be commonly accepted, we force good design to become a luxury because we are allowing manufacturers to capitalize on it.</p>
<p>What angers me most is that we are teaching people the incorrect definition of true design. “Designer” items are not the only things that are designed or designed well. EVERYTHING must be designed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Spot on! Great post.</p>
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